Debate "Housekeeping" (05:18)
Moderator John Donvan frames the debate on paying college athletes and introduces the panelists. Audience members record their preliminary votes.
Opening Statements For: Andy Schwartz (06:23)
Economist and OSKR Partner, Schwartz states that the NCAA's enforcement of amateurism is the conduct of an anti-competitive cartel. College athletes have a right to a market without collusion. Schwartz cites examples of athlete and coach pay.
Opening Statements Against: Len Elmore (06:03)
Attorney and former NBA player, Elmore states there is no right to play college sports and it is a benefactor/beneficiary relationship. "The mission of higher education is leadership development." Elmore considers focusing on valuing education fairly.
Opening Statements For: Joe Nocera (06:23)
"Bloomberg View" columnist and author, Nocera outlines six points to support paying college athletes. He cites scandals including fake classes at the University of North Carolina and states that race is an important subtext. Student athletes are employees.
Opening Statements Against: Christine Brennan (06:20)
Author and "U.S.A. Today" sports columnist, Brennan states that the argument about paying athletes is a conversation about paying men. She considers what pay in college sports would look like and outlines the possible chaos. Athletes currently receive compensation.
College Recruitment and Education (06:54)
Donvan summarizes the opening statements. Elmore agrees recruiting to make money is true, but it translates to win, losses, and opportunities; Schwarz cites the College Sports Research Institute report. Nocera counters that college is non-optional and athletes do not receive market value. Brennan argues that paying athletes does not make education better.
Paying Students for their Activities (09:01)
Brennan compares Emma Watson attending college to athletes who receive scholarships. Nocera got paid to work in the photography lab and it did not distract him from his studies. Elmore counters with a quote from Cardale Jones and states pay is a distraction. Brennan questions the amount of pay; Nocera cites Kentucky basketball as a real-world example.
Equal Pay for Athletes (03:57)
Schwarz explains the Department of Education stated that pay between male and female athletes must be equal; Brennan is skeptical of equality. Schwarz and Brennan argue scholarship equality.
Community Surrounding College Football (08:39)
Nocera states there is no way of knowing if communities will be "turned off" by paying college athletes; he cites free agency. Elmore considers the distinction between amateur and professional; Brennan argues competitive balance. Schwarz states imbalance already occurs and a free market would improve the situation.
QA: Athletic Pay and Exploitation (06:06)
Nocera states that paying coaches but not athletes fair market value results in exploitation. Elmore counters there are options of compensation; using name, image, and likeness for promotion should result in pay. Schwarz argues against giving the NCAA anti-trust exemption.
QA: Taxes to Fund a Pool (04:49)
Brennan states the key question is whether there is value in scholarship. Nocera counters that many players do not receive fair market value and their scholarships are devalued by what happens on campus.
QA: Compensation Through Sponsorship Outside College (01:38)
Schwarz agrees an Olympic style model is a good alternative to directly paying college athletes. Elmore agrees with compensating for name, image, and likeness, but cites problems.
QA: Class and Sports Conflict (03:06)
Elmore believes student athletes need to elicit a type of promise, but it is essential that students become an advocate for their education.
QA: Coach Control Over Athlete Transfers (01:53)
Elmore questions the number of coaches that want bad publicity for prohibiting a student transfer. Nocera argues the transfer rule should be abolished.
QA: High School vs. College Sports (02:50)
Elmore states that first generation is the marker for socioeconomic description; colleges want students with a certain GPA. He discusses personal accountability.
QA: Developing and Taxing Intellectual Gifts (03:34)
Elmore states that people forget the phrase "education mission." The carve-out makes it different than the commercial element. Schwarz argues the economic value of playing sports should belong to students.
Concluding Statement For: Schwarz (02:26)
Exploitation is about the gap between what you get and what you are worth; collusion is a part of college sports. Schwarz questions the word "enough."
Concluding Statement Against: Elmore (02:13)
The current system needs to change; optics are bad because there is no authority for change. College education is about leadership development; pay is a distraction.
Concluding Statement For: Nocera (02:23)
Many athletes have a deep cynicism regarding money. Nocera quotes Harry Winston's comments about the fake class scandal at the University of North Carolina.
Concluding Statement Against: Brennan (02:10)
Paying college athletes may ruin the system. The athletes receive much via scholarships and college experiences.
Audience Vote Results (01:59)
Donvan thanks panelists and supporters. Pre-Debate - For: 42% - Against: 33% - Undecided: 25%
Post-Debate - For: 60% - Against: 32% - Undecided: 8%
Credits: Pay College Athletes: A Debate (00:10)
Credits: Pay College Athletes: A Debate
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